change of guards at buckingham palace: we had a visit to the buckingham palace on 24th may 2008 to view the parade preceding and following the change of guards at the buckingham palace. the photograph is posted.
Monday, 26 May 2008
Sunday, 25 May 2008
roads and footpaths: the roads are quite smooth and without potholes. even humps are not to be found without warning post. footpaths are fully aligned with the roads and the houses. just opposite your house's entrance, you will find the footpath sloping towards the road. so your car will move from the road onto the footpath and into your house. footpaths are almost eight feet wide. at some places the cyclists are allowed to drive their cycles on a portion of the footpath. it is a great pleasure to walk on the footpaths. you are not hindered by the hawkers squatting on the footpaths. at reasonable distances you have telephone booths on the footpaths. you may call your friends and relatives if you have forgotten your mobile phone. if you do not have cash, you can pay through your debit/credit cards too. you won't find municipality's garbage bins on the footpaths or garbage collection chambers built on the footpaths. the level of footpaths is exactly six inches higher than that of the roads.
the roads have lane markings. marking for straight, left and right drives are made much in advance so that the motorists can easily change the lanes. nobody overtakes from the wrong lane just to get ahead of the other motorists. there are slots for bus stops. the buses while stopping will not block the following vehicles. if a bus moving ahead stops at a bus stop, the following bus will take turn to stop at the same stop and will never skip the stop.
at some places roads have four lanes, out of which a lane adjoining the footpath on both sides is exclusively marked for bus transport.
there are no open drains. the slopes on the roads and the platforms are so craftly done that all the rain water goes into the drain whole. one street in the greenwich area has long pieces of six inch wide iron jali strips are laid to cover the drains on both sides of the road. as narrated earlier the platform, road and the drain cover are so levelled that the pram can move without hindrance. another special aspect of this street was that the footpath was fully merged with the road, i.e., the level of footpath and the road was the same. undoubtedly, the street was open to the pedestrians only.
symmetrical buildings: an important aspect of buildings of london city is its victorian era architecture. it reminded me of the fort area of mumbai city. most of the buildings were four or five storeys. no sun-shades and enough of glazed windows in suburban areas also we find buildings with symmetrical designs and same heights. it makes the city very aesthetic. if high rises of new york are an attraction in the u.s., the oriental look of the buildings on both sides of the roads is a characteristic of london and its suburbs.
cannary wharf: cannary whart area is near greenwich, area where the imaginary meridien passes through the globe. while returning from westminister we took a boat cruise to greenwich. this area has a rail station by the same name. this area has developed in the recent times only.
the cannary wharf railway station has a very modern look. on its platform a transparent glass fibre wall separates you from the rail track. when train arrives, the doors of the transparent wall and the doors of the rail coaches will open simultaneously. another feature is the marking on the platform which depicts that the boarding passengers should stand on both sides of the doors so that the alighting passengers can first de-board. this station otherwise matches with the construction and designing of the delhi metro stations in elegance and convenience. there is a shopping mall also in the railway premises.
the cannary wharf area has several high rise buildings, where important commercial offices are located. these buildings have twenty to thirtyfive storeys. all exterior is glazed. it appears to be the new york of london.
the roads have lane markings. marking for straight, left and right drives are made much in advance so that the motorists can easily change the lanes. nobody overtakes from the wrong lane just to get ahead of the other motorists. there are slots for bus stops. the buses while stopping will not block the following vehicles. if a bus moving ahead stops at a bus stop, the following bus will take turn to stop at the same stop and will never skip the stop.
at some places roads have four lanes, out of which a lane adjoining the footpath on both sides is exclusively marked for bus transport.
there are no open drains. the slopes on the roads and the platforms are so craftly done that all the rain water goes into the drain whole. one street in the greenwich area has long pieces of six inch wide iron jali strips are laid to cover the drains on both sides of the road. as narrated earlier the platform, road and the drain cover are so levelled that the pram can move without hindrance. another special aspect of this street was that the footpath was fully merged with the road, i.e., the level of footpath and the road was the same. undoubtedly, the street was open to the pedestrians only.
symmetrical buildings: an important aspect of buildings of london city is its victorian era architecture. it reminded me of the fort area of mumbai city. most of the buildings were four or five storeys. no sun-shades and enough of glazed windows in suburban areas also we find buildings with symmetrical designs and same heights. it makes the city very aesthetic. if high rises of new york are an attraction in the u.s., the oriental look of the buildings on both sides of the roads is a characteristic of london and its suburbs.
cannary wharf: cannary whart area is near greenwich, area where the imaginary meridien passes through the globe. while returning from westminister we took a boat cruise to greenwich. this area has a rail station by the same name. this area has developed in the recent times only.
the cannary wharf railway station has a very modern look. on its platform a transparent glass fibre wall separates you from the rail track. when train arrives, the doors of the transparent wall and the doors of the rail coaches will open simultaneously. another feature is the marking on the platform which depicts that the boarding passengers should stand on both sides of the doors so that the alighting passengers can first de-board. this station otherwise matches with the construction and designing of the delhi metro stations in elegance and convenience. there is a shopping mall also in the railway premises.
the cannary wharf area has several high rise buildings, where important commercial offices are located. these buildings have twenty to thirtyfive storeys. all exterior is glazed. it appears to be the new york of london.
Sunday, 18 May 2008
post dated 13.5.2008 - how it all started: i think i have not been fair enough by not giving enough of credits to shagun for her role in arranging my visit to uk. so i am posting this addendum to say that she is quite a lovely daugher-in-law who would always like to see us happy. ashwini and shagun are so unison in their approach that not only i and laxmi have been invited but mr and mrs khare (parents of shagun) have also been invited to visit uk. they will be arriving tomorrow. and we i and laxmi are happy that we shall be enjoying a joint family of kesarwani's and khare's.
a shop without goods on shelves: can you ever imagie a shop selling goods without having shelves for displaying its wares? yes. argos is one of such shops here. just enter the shop. you will have newspaper stand like things. people are leaning over telephone directory type voluminous books. they are browsing the pages to find items of their interest. they will find the merchandise items with all necessary descriptions like size, weight, colour, features, etc. each product is code numbered. even prices are mentioned against them. but you should not be sure about their availabilit or their current prices. you can key in the product number and you will get immediate display if the item is available with the shop. and then check the current price. you should not be surprised if the item is on that date is available on discounted price. if you like, you may reserve the item and get a token number for future reference of the order. if you have a credit card or debit card (forget your cheque book), please move over to another corner and just key in your token number, insert your credit/debit card and pay the price. immediately you get a cash receipt for your payment and also the details of delivery counter number and the delivery waiting number. inspite of rush, you are assured to be served within five minutes. and lo, your turn is being announced over mike. you walk over to the counter and collect your buy. isn't it good and new experience?
suppose you do not wish to go to the shop. still you can buy the goods of your choice. just browse the website of the shop, see the product, compare the price of the product with those of other online shopkeepers, and reserve the product. you will get online order reference number. if you wish you can make online payment and instruct the shopkeeper to send the goods to your place. you may just have to pay for the service. unless you stay nearby and the goods are light weight, you would like to pay for the service. normally you can get credit from your credit card company/bank to make a purchase. yet, the shopkeeper is also willing to accept payment in instalments provided you hold the card issued by it to its valued customers.
suppose you do not wish to go to the shop. still you can buy the goods of your choice. just browse the website of the shop, see the product, compare the price of the product with those of other online shopkeepers, and reserve the product. you will get online order reference number. if you wish you can make online payment and instruct the shopkeeper to send the goods to your place. you may just have to pay for the service. unless you stay nearby and the goods are light weight, you would like to pay for the service. normally you can get credit from your credit card company/bank to make a purchase. yet, the shopkeeper is also willing to accept payment in instalments provided you hold the card issued by it to its valued customers.
Thursday, 15 May 2008
shopping mall without staircase: it had only escalators. laxmi was very hesitant to use it. however, shagun inspired her and she used escalator for the first time. once she reached upper floor, she had no option but to use escalator once again for descending. i was happy that her fear was now probably gone for ever.
cinema halls: the cinema halls here sell monthly tickets. the viewers using the facility can come to view the pictures as many times as they wish during a month. the cinema halls do not have seat numbers. so, there is free seating.
banks: bank's name boards do not display word 'bank' as part of their name. so i had to enquire what 'abbey' was.
weather forecast: here hour-blockwise weather forecast is available. people generally find out the forecast and dress up accordingly
cinema halls: the cinema halls here sell monthly tickets. the viewers using the facility can come to view the pictures as many times as they wish during a month. the cinema halls do not have seat numbers. so, there is free seating.
banks: bank's name boards do not display word 'bank' as part of their name. so i had to enquire what 'abbey' was.
weather forecast: here hour-blockwise weather forecast is available. people generally find out the forecast and dress up accordingly
Tuesday, 13 May 2008
my uk visit.
how it all started: ashwini alias laxman's wife shagun had been in uk since september 2007. ashwini followed her around november 2007. both had short term deputations. both had a desire that before their term ended, we (i and laxmi) should visit uk. however, i always said that our visit was not essential. on january 4, 2008 swati came to india from usa along with her new born son romir. she spent her time with us in lucknow in two tranches, first on arrival for about three weeks and later for a week before her sister-in-law shilpi's marriage. it was during her second stay that she got ashwini to book the journey tickets and at the same time made us not to say no to the programme. on 10th april ashwini got the visa interview dates fixed for 15th april, bought to and fro rail tickets for travel to delhi and also sent all necessary documents by airmail to reach me well in time. on 18th april we got our passports pasted with visa delivered at lucknow. on or about 22nd april to and fro air tickets were purchased by him and electronic copies delivered to me instantly.
preparations preceding the journey: immediately afterwards i started preparing ourselves for visiting the uk. clearing the monthly bills and managing payment of the forthcoming bills relating to telephone, internet, electricity, building society's dues, insurance, house tax, water tax,etc were ensured. consulting the physician before departure was also a necessity. getting bank passbooks updated and reconciled besides ensuring sufficient balance in accounts was also a task. consultation with friends who had visited uk earlier was also there. ashwini also kept us advised over phone and through e mails. overseas travel policy covering medical insurance had also to be arranged. since this needed pathalogical tests and a report by a general physician with doctor of medicine qualifications, it took almost two working days to get the policy.
my pre-occupations with the family temple, kesarwani vaish sabha and the building society: i used to visit my family temple in lucknow every saturday. so i paid a visit on 3rd may and briefed the pujari to take due care during my stay abroad. as i shall be returning only a few days before the next janmashtami, he had to be briefed about timely washing and cleaning of the premises.
i was secretary of kesarwani vaish sabha, lucknow, for 2006-08 and the next executive committee formation was only partially completed, i had to complete the rest of the process. for this purpose an urgent meeting could be called only on 4th may. on 5th the minutes were written and papers handed over to the president sri ghanshyam kesarwani.
i was deeply involved with the management of the affairs of the golf link apartment owners' association. i was treasurer during 2004-06 and later elected as secretary for 2006-08. here also the general body meeting had been scheduled for 18th may and the audit of the accounts for 2007-08 had to be completed. i insisted the auditors to complete the audit by 1st may, which he did by the 3rd may. i had to call an emergent meeting of the executive committe on 5th may to make alternative arrangements during my absence. i informed the members that i had given a reasonable amount of money as advance to the society's electrician jawahar for day to day expenses and the audit work was over. i assured that there should not be any difficulty to any office bearer in managing the affairs during my absence. however, the members simply decided to postpone the general body meeting and designated the vice president to guide the electrician in case any need arose.
as usual all meetings have to be preceded by efforts to fix the date and circulate the agenda, and followed by writing of the minutes and circulating the same. it consumes one's lot of time and energy.
visiting close relatives: i felt it our social obligation to visit our very close relatives before leaving india. so i visited our elder daughter, her parents-in-law, my elder sister, my daughter-in-law's parents, younger siblings of my wife laxmi, etc. i also informed gyan, bindu, rinki, poonam, ved and pravesh about our visit as i did not have enough time to pay a visit to them. i also informed my friends from whom i used to get occasional calls over telephone.
luggage for journey abroad: my airline allowed 28 kgs of check-in baggage and 7 kgs of cabin baggage per ticket. like other parents, we also wanted to carry sweets, namkeens, achars and other groceries generally consumed by indians for our children. each hard suit case weigned around 8 kgs, cabin soft suit case around 4 kgs, our clothes - cotton and woollen - around 12 kgs. so we together could carry about 22 kgs of other items. documents sent by ashwini and the e tickets had to be kept handy in the cabin baggage. passports had to be kept in personal pockets. mr and mrs khare sent a packet of pistachio as small gift as they were also due to follow us to uk on 18th may. laxmi and shibboji of delhi wanted to send several items but i could accept only a small pack of indian tea.
a warm send off on 6th may: we had to travel from lucknow to delhi by night train. i never wanted that anyone should trouble himself to come to railway station at late hours. however, a warm send off was given by mr and mrs khare, mr and mrs ved, mr and mrs ravi. my elder daughter anuradha, son-in-law shirish and grand daughters shreya and tanya were at the station before we reached. we really had a very warm send off.
a brief halt at delhi: our train reached delhi at around 0720 hrs. i immediately hired two coolies to carry the luggage outside the station, then hired two manual rickshaws to take us to my younger sister's residence nearby. we had two and half hours at our disposal for taking bath and finishing breakfast. we enjoyed nagories and kachories of gali batasha. we left their residence at 1030 hrs, reached delhi station by 1100 hrs and took a taxi car for journey upto igi international airport. we reached there at 1145 hrs, i.e., behind schedule by 45 minutes. we got our luggage x-rayed, reported for check in, filled in immigration (truly speaking emigration) form, completed related formalities, moved for security check. it was around 1245 hrs by then. boarding started at 1300 hrs. we were inside the plane by 1310 hrs. just before boarding the plane we made a call to shibboji. we also had a call from santosh, lucknow. from inside the plane we talked to anuradha. the scheduled departure of the plane was 1400 hrs. the plane started moving just around this time. actual take off on the runway was at 1430 hrs.
touch down at london: as per airline authorities, the actual journey time is 8 hours. however, take off to touch down took only seven and half hours. it was 1730 hrs as per uk time when our plane landed at the heathrow airport. collecting luggage took around 20 minutes, immigration formalities arund 10 minutes, and soon we were looking for ashwini and shagun. both were not visible and i had no british currency in my pocket. in fact, i had just forgotten to exchange my indian currency at delhi airport. so i took help of a fellow lady passenger from rajkot. she had a uk sim card. immediately ashwini and shagun were traced. we accompanied them to travel from airport to their romford residence. it was a train journey and we had to change at two places. it took almost two hours. from romford station to their residence, it was about five to seven minute walk. strolley type luggage was very convenient.
romford: romford is a suburb of london. in the satelite picture on google's website we see large patches of greenery around this city. probably the green patches denote farms around the city. so we can say that romford is a modern village. our indian villages will be a great contrast to this village. the romford county has its own municipal council. it has a town hall for the councillors. it has several shopping malls. it has a very big hospital. there is a police station also.
life in a uk flat: in india even if you stay in a flat, you happen to enjoy a social life. every now and then some or the other keeps knocking your doors. it may be your milkman, washerman, housemaid or a vegetable vendor. here you don't have the luxury of a servant or street vendor. in case you are a lone parent visiting your children and your children have left for their offices, you will be strongly missing the life in india.
shopping malls: i happened to visit asda shopping mall, which is as busy and crowded as big bazaar of lucknow. hkowever, one noticeable difference was that here almost 90% visitors were spenders not the onlookers.
weekly haats: romford area has a vast open space marked for street vendors. make shift shops are set up in the open space on the designated days of a week. many people prefer to buy goods like vegetables, fruits, flowers, flower plants, awnings, curtains, petty items of daily use from this market. the vendors display the prices as well as some sell by shouting the prices. there are benches where people can sit. vendors have their own vans, some fitted with electricity generator sets.
smoking: smoking here is as a big problem as paan masala is in india. generally public places are not littered. however, the weekly market place was badly littered with cigarette buts. now the area will be cleaned only when the municipal machine visits the area for which the days are marked. in any case i never expected such littering of the area.
driving: i think the people are at their best when they are driving. they are very very civilised and respect the rules. a red light is red light even if there is nobody crossing the road. a vehicle coming from the sub-road - whether taking left or right turn - will wait till traffic from the right has fully passed through. if any pedestrian wants to cross the road at the junction and such junction does not have a street light, the vehicle will stop to give way to the pedestrian. normally where street lights are there, a machine is also placed which can be operated by the pedestrian to stop the traffc and seek his passage to cross the road.
litter boxes: there were well designed litter boxes placed on the footpaths after every hundred meters. it very much helped in abiding by the rule not to litter.
skin show: no one bothers himself about the skin show. girls enjoy wearing clothes of their choice. body beauty is well appreciated by the people. no one passes any remark. not too many women in bikinis could be seen enjoying sunshine in public places like parks. a few men and boys were strolling without their shirts in the shopping malls.
police station: a police station's outer look was very very different. no one coming in or out of the building. seemed just like another office building. no one in uniform standing outside the building to guard the place. police vehicles were parked inside the building duly barricaded.
beat policeman: not yet seen by me.
curd: curd with different flavours like pineapple, mango, apricot etc is available. it is really very tasty and relishable by the vegetarians. parag and amul should also produce such products.
10 may 2008.
preparations preceding the journey: immediately afterwards i started preparing ourselves for visiting the uk. clearing the monthly bills and managing payment of the forthcoming bills relating to telephone, internet, electricity, building society's dues, insurance, house tax, water tax,etc were ensured. consulting the physician before departure was also a necessity. getting bank passbooks updated and reconciled besides ensuring sufficient balance in accounts was also a task. consultation with friends who had visited uk earlier was also there. ashwini also kept us advised over phone and through e mails. overseas travel policy covering medical insurance had also to be arranged. since this needed pathalogical tests and a report by a general physician with doctor of medicine qualifications, it took almost two working days to get the policy.
my pre-occupations with the family temple, kesarwani vaish sabha and the building society: i used to visit my family temple in lucknow every saturday. so i paid a visit on 3rd may and briefed the pujari to take due care during my stay abroad. as i shall be returning only a few days before the next janmashtami, he had to be briefed about timely washing and cleaning of the premises.
i was secretary of kesarwani vaish sabha, lucknow, for 2006-08 and the next executive committee formation was only partially completed, i had to complete the rest of the process. for this purpose an urgent meeting could be called only on 4th may. on 5th the minutes were written and papers handed over to the president sri ghanshyam kesarwani.
i was deeply involved with the management of the affairs of the golf link apartment owners' association. i was treasurer during 2004-06 and later elected as secretary for 2006-08. here also the general body meeting had been scheduled for 18th may and the audit of the accounts for 2007-08 had to be completed. i insisted the auditors to complete the audit by 1st may, which he did by the 3rd may. i had to call an emergent meeting of the executive committe on 5th may to make alternative arrangements during my absence. i informed the members that i had given a reasonable amount of money as advance to the society's electrician jawahar for day to day expenses and the audit work was over. i assured that there should not be any difficulty to any office bearer in managing the affairs during my absence. however, the members simply decided to postpone the general body meeting and designated the vice president to guide the electrician in case any need arose.
as usual all meetings have to be preceded by efforts to fix the date and circulate the agenda, and followed by writing of the minutes and circulating the same. it consumes one's lot of time and energy.
visiting close relatives: i felt it our social obligation to visit our very close relatives before leaving india. so i visited our elder daughter, her parents-in-law, my elder sister, my daughter-in-law's parents, younger siblings of my wife laxmi, etc. i also informed gyan, bindu, rinki, poonam, ved and pravesh about our visit as i did not have enough time to pay a visit to them. i also informed my friends from whom i used to get occasional calls over telephone.
luggage for journey abroad: my airline allowed 28 kgs of check-in baggage and 7 kgs of cabin baggage per ticket. like other parents, we also wanted to carry sweets, namkeens, achars and other groceries generally consumed by indians for our children. each hard suit case weigned around 8 kgs, cabin soft suit case around 4 kgs, our clothes - cotton and woollen - around 12 kgs. so we together could carry about 22 kgs of other items. documents sent by ashwini and the e tickets had to be kept handy in the cabin baggage. passports had to be kept in personal pockets. mr and mrs khare sent a packet of pistachio as small gift as they were also due to follow us to uk on 18th may. laxmi and shibboji of delhi wanted to send several items but i could accept only a small pack of indian tea.
a warm send off on 6th may: we had to travel from lucknow to delhi by night train. i never wanted that anyone should trouble himself to come to railway station at late hours. however, a warm send off was given by mr and mrs khare, mr and mrs ved, mr and mrs ravi. my elder daughter anuradha, son-in-law shirish and grand daughters shreya and tanya were at the station before we reached. we really had a very warm send off.
a brief halt at delhi: our train reached delhi at around 0720 hrs. i immediately hired two coolies to carry the luggage outside the station, then hired two manual rickshaws to take us to my younger sister's residence nearby. we had two and half hours at our disposal for taking bath and finishing breakfast. we enjoyed nagories and kachories of gali batasha. we left their residence at 1030 hrs, reached delhi station by 1100 hrs and took a taxi car for journey upto igi international airport. we reached there at 1145 hrs, i.e., behind schedule by 45 minutes. we got our luggage x-rayed, reported for check in, filled in immigration (truly speaking emigration) form, completed related formalities, moved for security check. it was around 1245 hrs by then. boarding started at 1300 hrs. we were inside the plane by 1310 hrs. just before boarding the plane we made a call to shibboji. we also had a call from santosh, lucknow. from inside the plane we talked to anuradha. the scheduled departure of the plane was 1400 hrs. the plane started moving just around this time. actual take off on the runway was at 1430 hrs.
touch down at london: as per airline authorities, the actual journey time is 8 hours. however, take off to touch down took only seven and half hours. it was 1730 hrs as per uk time when our plane landed at the heathrow airport. collecting luggage took around 20 minutes, immigration formalities arund 10 minutes, and soon we were looking for ashwini and shagun. both were not visible and i had no british currency in my pocket. in fact, i had just forgotten to exchange my indian currency at delhi airport. so i took help of a fellow lady passenger from rajkot. she had a uk sim card. immediately ashwini and shagun were traced. we accompanied them to travel from airport to their romford residence. it was a train journey and we had to change at two places. it took almost two hours. from romford station to their residence, it was about five to seven minute walk. strolley type luggage was very convenient.
romford: romford is a suburb of london. in the satelite picture on google's website we see large patches of greenery around this city. probably the green patches denote farms around the city. so we can say that romford is a modern village. our indian villages will be a great contrast to this village. the romford county has its own municipal council. it has a town hall for the councillors. it has several shopping malls. it has a very big hospital. there is a police station also.
life in a uk flat: in india even if you stay in a flat, you happen to enjoy a social life. every now and then some or the other keeps knocking your doors. it may be your milkman, washerman, housemaid or a vegetable vendor. here you don't have the luxury of a servant or street vendor. in case you are a lone parent visiting your children and your children have left for their offices, you will be strongly missing the life in india.
shopping malls: i happened to visit asda shopping mall, which is as busy and crowded as big bazaar of lucknow. hkowever, one noticeable difference was that here almost 90% visitors were spenders not the onlookers.
weekly haats: romford area has a vast open space marked for street vendors. make shift shops are set up in the open space on the designated days of a week. many people prefer to buy goods like vegetables, fruits, flowers, flower plants, awnings, curtains, petty items of daily use from this market. the vendors display the prices as well as some sell by shouting the prices. there are benches where people can sit. vendors have their own vans, some fitted with electricity generator sets.
smoking: smoking here is as a big problem as paan masala is in india. generally public places are not littered. however, the weekly market place was badly littered with cigarette buts. now the area will be cleaned only when the municipal machine visits the area for which the days are marked. in any case i never expected such littering of the area.
driving: i think the people are at their best when they are driving. they are very very civilised and respect the rules. a red light is red light even if there is nobody crossing the road. a vehicle coming from the sub-road - whether taking left or right turn - will wait till traffic from the right has fully passed through. if any pedestrian wants to cross the road at the junction and such junction does not have a street light, the vehicle will stop to give way to the pedestrian. normally where street lights are there, a machine is also placed which can be operated by the pedestrian to stop the traffc and seek his passage to cross the road.
litter boxes: there were well designed litter boxes placed on the footpaths after every hundred meters. it very much helped in abiding by the rule not to litter.
skin show: no one bothers himself about the skin show. girls enjoy wearing clothes of their choice. body beauty is well appreciated by the people. no one passes any remark. not too many women in bikinis could be seen enjoying sunshine in public places like parks. a few men and boys were strolling without their shirts in the shopping malls.
police station: a police station's outer look was very very different. no one coming in or out of the building. seemed just like another office building. no one in uniform standing outside the building to guard the place. police vehicles were parked inside the building duly barricaded.
beat policeman: not yet seen by me.
curd: curd with different flavours like pineapple, mango, apricot etc is available. it is really very tasty and relishable by the vegetarians. parag and amul should also produce such products.
10 may 2008.
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